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August 7, 2024

The 'Command and Control' podcast, hosted by Dr Peter Roberts and sponsored by Systematic, explores how our understanding of C2 needs to flex with modern requirements. It includes high-profile guests from NATO, Netherlands, UK, US, and Australian Armed Forces as well as thinktanks and industry experts to debate hot topics such as AI and multi-domain integration.

Better political decision-making takes time

 

Written by Dr Peter Roberts for Aureliusthinking.com and reproduced with his kind permission. View the original post here.

A recent discussion with former NATO Secretary General Jaap de Hoop Scheffer made it clear that effective civil-military relationships – especially where command and control is concerned – is based on personal relationships.

Those relationships, in Jaap’s case, were between him as SecGen and his military counterparts – both the Supreme Allied Commander Europe, the ISAF commander, the Chairman of the Military Committee and various heads of respective militaries within Alliance member states.

Jaap’s successful execution of his role, and thus the functioning of the organisation, was built on his expertise and his experiences before he took up the role. But Jaap was clear that his expertise was not developed through political office but of a life spent in company with military officers and in educating students in military theory and the reality of Civ/Mil relations.

Dr Peter Roberts

 

Dr Peter Roberts is the host of the 'Command and Control' podcast. He is both a Royal Navy veteran and the former Director of Military Sciences at the Royal United Services Institute. 

In addition, he is a regular global commentator and advisor on military affairs.

In a related post by Karl-Heinz Kamp, a former Special Advisor in the German Ministry of Defence and an Associate Fellow of the German Council on Foreign Relations, Germany’s Nuclear IQ is in a poor state.

“The brief public debate in early 2024 on how to respond to Donald Trump’s announcements that, as U.S. president, he would question the American promise to protect its allies, revealed a profound lack of knowledge in large parts of politics, in the press and even among supposed experts. Statements by members of parliament revealed considerable gaps in knowledge, and a well-known German historian seriously suggested in a press interview that the European Union should procure its own nuclear weapons and – in the absence of EU statehood – rotate the “red button” between the European capitals. “So much ignorance is frightening, but it can be found in many non-nuclear NATO states.” [1]

If Kamp’s observation of German politicians is true, a similar picture can be painted across most European capitals. In Paris and London, the state of political awareness of military matters is also parlous. The new British government has 14 years in opposition, preparing for the moment they claimed power; the new Defence Secretary – John Healey – has been responsible for the Labour Party defence policy (as Shadow Secretary of State for Defence) since 2020.

One might have expected four years of experience with the portfolio to enable Healey to enter office with an intimate understanding of the issues and challenges being faced alongside a set of policy positions that would meet those issues. No so. Healey – indeed, the entire Labour Party – have abrogated responsibility for defence and security policy until completion of yet another Strategic Defence Review which reports sometime in 2025. Examining speeches and conversations from Healey on defence matters reveals minimal understanding of broader theories of national security.

In France, military personnel (whether serving or retired) rarely comment on national security matters, but when they do it can make headlines.[2] Today, we would be as shocked as Europeans in 1961 if the French Army put tanks into Paris in order to overthrow the President, yet the French military has a long history of putting the interests of the state before the governance processes of civil-military leadership; something Parisian politicians remain well aware of given the events of 2021.[3]

Researchers have characterised civil-military relations under the 5th Republic as “structurally unstable”[4]; a tendency for successive French presidents to use the military for domestic emergencies (whether COVID-19 or domestic policing), burning budgets and readiness in order to meet domestic political agendas has demonstrated the inarticulate understanding of martial power – its creation and maintenance – within the French political elites.

What needs to be done?

Given the performance of Europe’s politicians regarding national security, there appears to be a clear requirement to provide decision-makers with a better understanding of the theories, processes and ideas around national and international security. Some might argue that the UK has a good engine to deliver this from academia and the military: the reality is that the community is smaller than one might imagine as many academics are idealists not realists who lack practical experience, and those within the senior levels of the military have been promoted on the basis of their accountancy skills, not their ability to command or win.

This matter of who advises the political class is complicated by the demands on political diaries. Representatives must already split time between constituency matters, legislative scrutiny, and lobbyists – a heady mix that requires sacrifices to family time and leisure (something many military personnel will be intimately familiar with).

Persuading politicians to take time to be educated about military and national security theory often falls to the bottom of their priorities. Yet it is necessary. The real challenge is in persuading politicians that the demands and importance of national security are sufficient to warrant the investment of their time and intellect.

[1] Dr karl-Heinz Kamp, “Nuclear Hot Air: The German Debate on Nuclear Weapons”, in German Council for Foreign Relations (DGAP), 16 February 2024. https://dgap.org/en/research/publications/nuclear-hot-air-german-debate-nuclear-weapons

[2] Jerome Pellistrandi, “Don’t worry about the French military”, in Politico, 14 May 2021. https://www.politico.eu/article/french-military-letter-civil-war-france/

[3] Chiara Ruffa and Yagil Levy, “The shifting state of French civil-military relations”, in politicalviolenceataglance, 23 June 2021. https://politicalviolenceataglance.org/2021/06/23/the-shifting-state-of-french-civil-military-relations/.

[4] Antoine Maire & Olivier Schmit, “An unstable equilibrium: Civil-military relations within the French Ministry of Defence.”  Journal of Strategic Studies45(6–7), 2022, pp. 798–819. See also Philippe Lagassé, “Cooperating to contrôle: French senators as defence overseers and civil-military actors.” European Security 32:2, (2023), pp. 252-269.

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